美國密歇根州州長接受CGTN專訪：中美貿易戰對誰都沒有好處
主持人: Where does the China-Michigan commercial relationship stand right now? Which Chinese provinces are in Michigan, which Chinese businesses, which sectors are they investing in Michigan, and which areas do you think are ripe for more growth in your state?
中國各省與密歇根州之間的商業關係現在達到一個什麼程度？中國企業在您的州投資的主要是哪些領域？哪些領域更有投資潛力？
州長: One of the most important things in the world is what’s becoming the mobility industry. It’s really the automotive industry combining with the IT industry. Sort of merging together about autonomous and connected vehicles, it’s about electric system versus internal combustion. So that area is huge. And, we’re seeing investment from all over China in Michigan and involvement there.
這個世界上最重要的事情是什麼成為了移動產業。那麼我認為是汽車產業與IT產業的結合。像自動駕駛與車聯網諸如此類的結合，主要是關於電力系統與內燃機技術。這是一個非常廣闊的領域。我們在密歇根見到來自中國各地的投資。
主持人: Governor, are you concerned a little bit, that for this mission compared to your past missions given where US-China trade tensions stand right now…and of course, there might be some room for further escalation on this front as well?
州長，如你所見，與你上次來華不同的是，近期中美之間的貿易緊張局勢，並且還有進一步升級的空間，你是否擔憂？
州長: Yeah, there is a real concern. And that’s something that I hope doesn’t escalate. We’ve had great relations, we’ve seen a lot of success with China in terms of both sides winning. In terms of people having job opportunities they didn’t have before. And I think we need to encourage more trade rather than less. So I hope we work through this as effectively as possible and I hear it from Chinese companies, but I can tell you, I hear it from American companies also concerned about how do we keep this in terms of if we have issues to address, let’s get them addressed, let’s get behind this and let’s do more business together.
是的，我很擔憂。並且我也希望目前的緊張局勢不要進一步升級。我們過去有著良好的關係，合作也取得了雙贏的成果，更是創造了前所未有的工作機位。我們應該鼓勵更多的貿易往來，而不是更少的。我希望這一問題能盡可能有效地解決，從很多中國企業那裏我聽到了這樣的呼聲，很多美國企業也很關心這一問題，關於如何保持合作關係，如果中美雙方有問題需要解決，那麼我們將它好好解決，然後進行更多的商業合作。
主持人: What about investment then Governor, because it seems like Chinese investment heading into the United States right now, it’s facing more of a hostile attitude environment compared to the past few years. Where does Michigan stand on Chinese investment?
那麼談及投資領域，我們觀察到美國對中國投資美國的態度相對於過去幾年變得更加敵對。密歇根州是如何看待中國投資？
州長: We welcome it. And in fact, we’re encouraging it. We’ve continued to see a lot of Chinese businesses come into Michigan. I’m excited to see that happen. We’re having success stories all the time. GAC just announced a research and development center in Michigan. Other companies are lining up to come and I’ve got a whole list of different meetings I’m doing on my trip here to say you’re welcome, come to Michigan.
我們歡迎中國投資。事實上，我們十分鼓勵。我們也持續看到許多中國企業進入到密歇根州。對此我感到十分興奮。我們一直看到許多成功的案例。廣汽集團剛在密歇根州投資新建了研發機構。其他的中國企業也正排著隊到來，我手中有一長串的會面計劃。此行我就是來告訴你們，歡迎你們，歡迎來密歇根州。
主持人: Washington right now is thinking about imposing tariffs on some 200 billion dollars worth of Chinese goods. And if that does happen, that’s really going to hurt small businesses this time around and small businesses are so crucial to the American economy. What’s your take on this issue?
特朗普政府正在考慮對2000億美元的中國商品徵收關稅。小型企業對美國經濟至關重要，此舉將更加傷害小型企業。您對這個問題有什麼看法？
州長: It is a concern. That’s where we need to work through these issues. Because it’s not just small business, it raises prices to our consumers. So we need to be thoughtful about that. Again, I think there is still things to improve in terms of trade relations and intellectual property…but, let’s not get in a trade war, let’s not create an adverse environment if we can help it because, again that only hurts everyone versus saying we have proactive trade…that’s the right answer because I view it as it helps the whole world when China and Michigan, or China and America can work well together it sends a good message to everyone.
這是個大家都關心的問題，也是我們需要努力解決的問題。這不僅事關小企業，這會使我們的消費者面臨更高的價格。我們需要考慮得更加週全。雖然我認為在貿易關係和智慧財產權領域，還有一些需要改進的地方。但我不希望貿易戰的發生，我們不應該構建一個敵對的氛圍，因為貿易戰相較于積極貿易活動來說，只會傷害所有人。我認為這才是正確的答案，如果中國和密歇根州或者中國和美國能友好合作，這對全世界來說都是利好，能給每個人都傳遞出積極的信號。
主持人: And speaking of the domestic market, China will be hosting its first International Import Expo this November. This is going to be huge, it’s a mega platform connecting Chinese buyers with sellers from all around the world. How big of an opportunity do you think this is specifically to gain more market share here in China?
談及中國國內市場，今年11月，中國將舉辦首屆國際進口博覽會。它將成為連接中國買家和世界各地產品的大型平臺。美國公司應該如何利用這個平臺在中國市場增加份額？
州長: I think it’s a good opportunity. It’s a way to build relations. I always tell people…people always underestimate, it’s hard to do business in another country, just anywhere. I’m an old business person, I’ve actually done that. And if you can create an environment to facilitate that to make you feel welcomed, to say here’s ways you can do it faster, better, easier, that encourages more of this work to get done, which I think is again a very much positive…because I view this as about long term relationships.
我認為這是一次很好的機遇。這是一個很好的構建關係的方式。我總是告訴他人，人們卻總是低估這一點。在另一個國家做生意很難，無論在哪兒。我是一個傳統商人，而我確實在這點上做成功了。如果你可以構建一個環境並且使得自己能夠被歡迎，那麼由此你可以做得更快、更好、更輕鬆，拓展更多的業務，這是非常積極的方式，並且我著眼于構建長期合作關係。
主持人: So Governor, what is your hope then for the China-US economic relationship going forward? How do the two countries manage their differences but also grow mutually as well?
您希望中美經濟關係將如何發展？兩國如何能最好地管理分歧並努力實現共同發展？
州長: Michigan is a great illustration of that. Michigan didn’t have much of a relationship with China until I became Governor. Now after eight years, we’re actually number three in terms of the rank state for the number of jobs created by foreign direct investment from China over the last several years. That’s huge in terms of helping our economy grow. Isn’t that the kind of message we want to reinforce with people? And we build great relationships with in particular with some parts of China where we have sister state relationships that I think we have more and more opportunity.
密歇根州本身可以成為一個例證。在我成為州長之前，密歇根並沒有與中國有太多的往來。如今，八年以後，就來自中國的直接投資創造的就業崗位數量而言，我們是全美排名第三的州。這對於幫助我們的經濟發展而言意義重大。這不正是我們想要給人們傳遞和強調的訊息嗎？在中國，特別是一些與我們建立姐妹城市關係的地方，我們將有越來越多的合作機會。
